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greetings to all the lovers of the

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hello citizens and welcome to unknown

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i'm jason mcclellan thanks for hanging

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out with me

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if you're a ufo enthusiast like me

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you've likely noticed

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that there is a current push for

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government transparency

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when it comes to ufos

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people are clamoring for the us

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government to disclose what it knows

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about ufos

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and finally come clean after all these

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years of denial and secrecy

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there's been lots of global mainstream

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media coverage about ufos in the u.s

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government this year

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and the real driving force behind this

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recent push for government ufo

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information

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is that request for a ufo report by the

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senate select committee on intelligence

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that first appeared in the intelligence

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authorization act for fiscal year 2021

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in june of 2020 and eventually found its

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into the large omnibus appropriations

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bill at the end of 2020.

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we've certainly discussed this on

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previous episodes but to quickly

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summarize

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the senate select committee on

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intelligence requested that the director

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of national intelligence

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assemble a report on ufos specifically

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this report is supposed to include ufo

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data and reports held by the navy

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data from fbi ufo investigations and

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suggestions for how to improve

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interagency data sharing the sena select

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committee on intelligence requested that

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this report be submitted in an

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unclassified form but noted that a

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classified annex could be included

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the requesters wanted this report within

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intelligence authorization act for

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which again took place at the end of

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so plenty of people are holding their

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breath expecting a big public data dump

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relevatory disclosures from the

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government in june

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let's reel in our emotion fueled

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expectations and assumptions for a

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and look at what we actually know at

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this point which

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isn't very much we know the senate

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select committee on intelligence

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requested a report

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we know it requested to have that report

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within 180 days from december 27

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2020. that means it could be issued

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sooner

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but it's also possible that it will take

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longer than 180 days

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we know that the request is for an

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but as we've explained on this show

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unclassified doesn't necessarily mean

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that's basically what we know about this

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report it has

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government to be transparent about the

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there's no shortage of media coverage

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lately making claims that

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with this report the us government is

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finally going to reveal what it knows

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and that's just inaccurate if and when

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the public is able to see the contents

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of this report it will likely contain a

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data collected associated with those

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and that will be awesome we all love

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reading about

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sightings and seeing supporting data but

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you know i love constantly reminding you

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that ufos are seen

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every day all around the world by people

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from all walks of life

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ufo sightings have been documented since

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the emergence of written communication

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and governments around the world have

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investigated ufos

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both publicly and secretly

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on sunday may 16th the long-running u.s

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investigative journalism news program 60

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aired a story about the impending ufo

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report from the director of national

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and about the recently hyped navy ufo

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we have tackled many strange stories on

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but perhaps none like this it's the

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story of the u.s

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government's grudging acknowledgment of

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unidentified aerial phenomena

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uap more commonly known as ufos

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after decades of public denial the

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pentagon now admits

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there's something out there and the u.s

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senate wants to know what it is

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the intelligence committee has ordered

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the director of national intelligence

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and the secretary of defense

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to deliver a report on the mysterious

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by next month for this segment 60

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minutes correspondent bill whittaker

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interviewed several people including

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luis elizondo

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who headed up the pentagon's ufo program

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that officially ran from 2007

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through 2012 known as atip the advanced

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so what you're telling me is that

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ufos unidentified

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flying objects are real

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bill i think we're beyond that already

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the government has already stated for

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the record that they're real

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i'm not telling you that the united

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states government is telling you that

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we're so far beyond the question of

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whether ufos are real

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aren't we yes and no

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we know for a fact that unidentified

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objects are seen in our skies

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we know that pilots private commercial

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see ufos all the time we know that

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military personnel scientists police

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officers

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and people like you see ufos every day

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and we know that governments around the

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world including the united states

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have had official projects to study and

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the existence of unknown aerial objects

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established and accepted norm is that

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some small percentage of ufos could have

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the simple idea that there are objects

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scientists can't identify or explain

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so that's why this question continues to

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and that's a major contributing factor

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to the media buzz we're seeing

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associated with the military ufo photos

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and the impending senate ufo report but

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and the motivation behind it having

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government for ufo transparency

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even people who played primary roles in

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don't think it will contain much lu

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during a may 29th appearance on tucker

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well what we should learn is exactly

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that what the u.s government knows about

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this topic and has known for a while

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it's a threat assessment

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unclassified level and then provided to

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which is a report that is expected to be

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comprehensive and certainly

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that's a report that congress deserves

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unfortunately what we might get is

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much more watered down and i think from

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that's probably the most concerning part

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of this the last thing we need is more

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let's briefly talk about an

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investigation into the department of

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that was launched by the dod's inspector

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announcing and quote evaluation of the

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dod's actions regarding the unidentified

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there's been plenty of speculation

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and by whom let's look at what the ig

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it promotes the economy efficiency and

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none of these are good news for the ufo

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some have speculated that this

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investigation or evaluation

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was prompted by lou elizondo or others

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because department

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and agencies are being less than

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forthcoming with information requests

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related to the assembly of the report

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lou has refused to comment on that but

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sheehan a constitutional litigation and

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appellate attorney

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who has reportedly been retained by lou

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has publicly asserted

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that there is not one ig ufo evaluation

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but rather two or even three and he

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alleges that one

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was indeed initiated by lou elizondo

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here's another great opportunity for me

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to throw in a little

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trivia nugget danny sheehan is somebody

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i've met several times over the year and

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certainly had as a speaker

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at the international ufo congress when i

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was one of the organizers of that event

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and danny sheehan is one of several

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individuals who randomly showed up at my

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uninvited so many years ago there's a

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fun random detail for you

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anyway lou commented on the ig

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evaluation during his recent appearance

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with the announcement of the new ig

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evaluation into this uh into this topic

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years of pentagon obfuscation hopefully

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the those elements of resistance in the

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uh will realize that that that that type

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of resistance at this point is

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is rather futile so again this pretty

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clearly demonstrates that

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no the government hasn't all of a sudden

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decided to pivot

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and become forthcoming and transparent

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when it comes to the ufo subject

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also i'll point out that we've seen a

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government investigation or

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evaluation related to ufos before in

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1994 new mexico congressman steven

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schiff requested that the government

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accountability office

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congress's investigative branch

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investigate whether the government

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covered up what really crashed in

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roswell

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in 1947 and he initiated this request

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because he was beyond frustrated

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by having his request for information

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ignored by the department of defense

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it's this gao pressure that led to the

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air force issuing their

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roswell report which declared that what

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crashed

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and was recovered in roswell was not a

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weather balloon as had previously been

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claimed

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but instead a balloon from project mogul

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designed to listen for soviet nuclear

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detonations

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this report failed to address the

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reports of recovered bodies from the

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crash

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and the gao wasn't impressed then in

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1997

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i believe the air force followed that up

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with its roswell report

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case closed where it offers crash test

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dummies as the explanation for what

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people saw

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another interesting parallel to this

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roswell probe and what we're seeing now

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in the government

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is that in the early 90s the ufo

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community was heavily pushing for the

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disclosure of roswell information

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and actively trying to generate

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congressional interest

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there was even a petition requesting

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that president clinton declassify

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quote any information regarding the

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existence of ufos or extraterrestrial

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intelligence end quote a petition that

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was supported and promoted

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by the j allen heineck center for ufo

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studies the fund for ufo research

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and the mutual ufo network of course as

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the internet became more of a thing and

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obviously with the rise of social media

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the voice of ufo activism was amplified

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we're certainly experiencing that right

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now there have been ufo lobbyists for

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years and years

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and it was just announced last week that

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a ufo political action committee

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has been formed this ufo pack was

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founded by public relations executive

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darius fisher and he's joined by matt

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micawiak a republican consultant

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and peter ragon a political advisor to

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democratic california governor gavin

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newsom

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this group's website explains that the

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ufo pack is dedicated to quote

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educating the american public and

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financially supporting politicians who

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advocate for the full disclosure of

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information about unidentified flying

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objects end quote

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on may 20th the group posted on social

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media

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quote we're proud to launch ufopack.org

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today

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please like if you think our leaders in

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washington should declassify any and

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all information related to ufo and uap

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end quote

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government ufo disclosure is all the

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rage and that's cool

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i guess the funny thing about disclosure

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is that it's been all the rage since i

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became professionally involved in the

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ufo research field 13 years ago

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everybody was talking about disclosure

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several people were hyping up

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and even bragging about pentagon ufo

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briefings

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building ufo disclosure countdown clocks

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and making prediction after prediction

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about presidents who were guaranteed to

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be the

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disclosure president i've always had

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mixed feelings about disclosure

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it's certainly not anything i've

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personally pushed for or

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lost any sleep over waiting for it to

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occur but

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as you may have heard me say many times

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before if there are people who want to

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pursue that avenue

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then awesome good for them i certainly

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support

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exploring various areas and methods when

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it comes to exploring the ufo mystery

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but i personally don't think there's

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much benefit from pushing the government

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to reveal ufo information

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for a few reasons first the government

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has addressed ufos

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so many times in the past and that's

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almost always had negative results

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these past moments of disclosure have

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directly belittled ufo researchers and

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anybody who takes ufo seriously

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completely ignored and even disparaged

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witnesses

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bolstered the idea in the eyes of the

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general public that all ufos are

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explainable

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and added fuel to keep the ufo stigma

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rolling

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second because of what ufos are unknown

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objects or craft

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and because of what the government does

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the military more specifically

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is from a military standpoint data

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collected in information learned from

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military ufo encounters

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isn't something that would be released

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to the public at least until the object

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in question has been identified as

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something mundane

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again from a military standpoint that's

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a national security issue

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and those details aren't shared with the

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public and for good reason

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the general public isn't privy to

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everything the military knows or

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everything they do

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and obviously they shouldn't be either

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and third

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i really don't think the us government

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has all that much to say when it comes

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to ufos

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sure they likely have some cool ufo

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cases that include data collected from

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various sources

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providing supporting evidence that a

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particular object

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involved in a particular incident was

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demonstrating remarkable characteristics

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and as cool as that stuff is

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it doesn't really answer any questions

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and look

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the government is big it's really big

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it's a bunch of different departments

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branches and agencies

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all doing their own thing and not

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communicating or sharing information

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with each other

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and within these different departments

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branches and agencies

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are people a bunch of individual

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fallible

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regular people as we've witnessed

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recently

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there's so much mixed messaging being

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delivered from government spokespeople

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regarding the ufo

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subject unfortunately some disclosure

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advocates have become so hungry

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so needy for government ufo disclosure

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that they aren't interested at all in

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the truth

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in reality they hear what they want to

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hear they celebrate and highlight

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statements that conform to

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and bolster the narrative that aligns

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with their own personal beliefs

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but they also ignore statements from

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these same spokespeople

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that aren't beneficial to that narrative

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it's unfortunate

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but that's just human nature i get it

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but for people who are truly interested

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in the truth

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and wanting to learn more about ufos and

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reduce the stigma around this topic so

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scientists

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academics and others will be more

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willing to dip their toes in the ufo

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research waters

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to help try to better understand and

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possibly even explain some of the

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thousands of ufo sightings that take

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place every year

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selective listening and forcing things

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to fit a desired outcome

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is a pointless effort all the ufo buzz

503
00:17:09,429 --> 00:17:06,799
happening right now

504
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is exciting to see and it's easy to get

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caught up in it

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but we have to keep things in

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perspective with the recent hyped navy

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ufo photos and videos

509
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we have to remember that almost

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everything associated with these

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is assumption based on extremely limited

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information

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for the most part the only detail about

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these

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that has been officially confirmed is

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that they were photographed or captured

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on video by navy personnel

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that's it all the other details to this

519
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point are

520
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at least third hand stories in some of

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these cases

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we're fortunate to have heard firsthand

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witness testimony

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but most of what makes these cases sound

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remarkable

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is data that was reportedly registered

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by radar and other military systems

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we don't have confirmation of this data

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and it certainly hasn't been shared with

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the public

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and even with that as objective

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researchers

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we need to keep in mind that electronic

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warfare systems

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are capable of interfering with systems

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scrambling

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jamming and even spoofing the objects

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and data shown on tracking systems that

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military technology has been around

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and in use by the u.s military since the

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80s so imagine how much better that

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technology is today

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the bottom line is that there's always

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going to be

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mystery and intrigue when it comes to

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military activities

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military engagements of unknown or

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unusual craft

549
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and secretive military technology so

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don't expect the military to be

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forthcoming

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when it comes to disclosing everything

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about ufo incidents

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i've always been of the opinion that

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true government disclosure on the ufo

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topic

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will never happen and that's still my

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personal feeling on the issue

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the primary reason behind that thought

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is like i mentioned

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i really don't think the government

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knows all that much about ufos

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they keep demonstrating that and i

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always think back to lou elizondo's

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statement that he made back in 2017

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when he took the stage as part of the

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launch of to the stars academy of arts

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and science

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that announced the government's ufo

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00:19:16,230 --> 00:19:13,360
effort had just figured out

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that ufos even exist it was in this

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position

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i learned that the phenomena

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[Music]

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is indeed real all the activity and

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attention on ufos right now

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is pretty exciting and i'm looking

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forward to seeing what transpires

579
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what information is released to the

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public in coming months

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and how the general public reacts to it

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all

583
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but in the end i don't expect a new era

584
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of ufo transparency from the government

585
00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:43,760
and that's fine yes the government

586
00:19:48,150 --> 00:19:46,480
should be taking ufo seriously and the

587
00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:48,160
military should be examining and

588
00:19:52,789 --> 00:19:50,400
investigating ufo encounters

589
00:19:55,510 --> 00:19:52,799
but i suspect they do that already

590
00:19:58,310 --> 00:19:55,520
that's part of what the military does

591
00:19:59,669 --> 00:19:58,320
rather than hoping for juicy ufo details

592
00:20:01,909 --> 00:19:59,679
from the government

593
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i think there's better worth in

594
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generating community support and placing

595
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public pressure

596
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on academic institutions scientists

597
00:20:13,510 --> 00:20:11,919
curious wealthy individuals and even

598
00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:13,520
specific units of the government

599
00:20:18,390 --> 00:20:15,760
like the faa to get involved in

600
00:20:20,549 --> 00:20:18,400
investigating individual cases

601
00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:20,559
because every ufo sighting or incident

602
00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:22,000
is different

603
00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:23,760
sure there's something to be learned

604
00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:26,320
about ufos in a broad sense by

605
00:20:30,310 --> 00:20:28,480
evaluating data looking for patterns

606
00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:30,320
similarities etc

607
00:20:35,590 --> 00:20:33,360
but every incident is different and

608
00:20:37,590 --> 00:20:35,600
needs individual attention

609
00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:37,600
that's the only way to provide real

610
00:20:41,029 --> 00:20:38,720
answers

611
00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:41,039
that's where the real value is being

612
00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:42,480
able to identify what

613
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:45,360
this particular object was to be able to

614
00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:46,320
identify something

615
00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:49,600
truly mysterious there or to pinpoint

616
00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:51,120
and positively conclude

617
00:20:56,149 --> 00:20:53,520
that this specific object was an

618
00:20:59,190 --> 00:20:56,159
extraterrestrial spacecraft

619
00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:59,200
i don't know i really don't ufos are

620
00:21:03,510 --> 00:21:00,240
hard

621
00:21:05,110 --> 00:21:03,520
and that again is because every ufo

622
00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:05,120
sighting is different

623
00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:08,640
there is no single answer this subject

624
00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:11,520
this phenomenon if you will is

625
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,520
tremendously broad

626
00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:15,840
so again it's great that people are

627
00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:17,280
looking at this thing

628
00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:20,000
from a wide variety of angles trying all

629
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:21,679
sorts of different approaches

630
00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:23,679
it's cool that lawmakers are taking an

631
00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:25,840
interest that also isn't new

632
00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:28,320
but hey it's always good to get new

633
00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:29,600
discussions started

634
00:21:33,910 --> 00:21:32,559
and to increase the awareness that of

635
00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:33,920
course ufos are real

636
00:21:38,230 --> 00:21:36,640
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638
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642
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643
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645
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646
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hanging out today i'm jason mcclellan

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do us a favor friends always treat the

648
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ufo subject with the cautious and

649
00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:59,120
responsible skepticism it deserves

650
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question everything have the courage to

651
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form your own

652
00:22:06,149 --> 00:22:04,640
opinions keep truth as the focus of your

653
00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:06,159
quest even if the truth

654
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:08,240
conflicts with your opinions and of

655
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course stay strange

656
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